Living With Back Pain

It has been awhile ....

2012-01-11T10:54:00.000-08:00

So much has happened in my life since my last post, it has been a journey.

2010 was pretty much a wash. I lost my mom in January and then in February we had to close our business. The summer of 2010 we had our youngest daughter in drug treatment for addiction to prescription pain medications.... mine have always been in a locked safe. She met a guy while in treatment and the two thought it would be an amazing idea to move in together after all he was in for alcohol. REALLY!!!

There was all kinds of crap that filled in the gaps all equally stressful and we know that stress is not good for chronic pain patients.

We somehow muddled through it all but I can tell you it was not easy.

2011 brought a little bit better year. My daughter is still sober and moved back home in Dec. this was after being physically and mentally abused by the alcoholic she lived with for 13 months. I worry each day about her sobriety.

When we closed the business I was not thinking and instead of having someone come in and buy all of the inventory we just packed it up and moved it home. Therefore, I have spent over a year trying to liquidate box after box of stuff in a depressed economy.

Enough of that I want to post about a project I am working on that will hopefully benefit everyone with disabilities especially those who could stand to drop a few pounds.

It is a pain to get medications refilled by MDs

2009-09-30T22:17:00.000-07:00

When I first began treatment for my chronic pain I worked with a pain management Dr. for over 4 years to get the correct dosage and everything that I needed to more or less control my pain and still be able to function and have a quality of life. Once this was accomplished I talked to my primary care physician of 16 yrs. to see if she would take over writing my prescriptions. She agreed and this has worked well for 4 or 5 years now. I have never called with lame excuses for why I have run out of medicine (I never had) or any other crap that Md's see with drug seeking patients. I also see a huge benefit to having one MD prescribing all of my medicine instead of 3 or 4 MD writing a variety of Rx's.

I also believe in continuity of care... which seems to be a thing of the past.

Last month I was informed by the "phone nurse" that my Dr. has decided to no longer treat chronic pain patients. All that she does for me is write my Rx's every 2 or 3 months and takes care of my annual physical.

I admit, I have been a little freaked out by this but keep reminding myself that I have not heard it from my Dr. yet and until I do I don't need to worry. But in this day and age finding a Dr. that will prescribe pain meds is extremely difficult. I don't need to go back to a pain management Dr. for any reason... I am on a good pain regimen. Besides, going to a specialist cost me an additional $25 in co-payments a visit and 2-3 hours wait time in their lovely waiting room.

Specialist's are just that, a Dr. that you use for specialized illnesses not just writing a monthly Rx. I guess if she really is going to kick me to the curb on this issue I will begin the search for a new primary care doctor who will manage and oversee this aspect of my health. If I ever feel that an adjustment needs to be made in dosage or type of pain med I am on I will go to the specialist but just for a written Rx I find it a bit ridiculous.

I would love to hear your feedback on this matter. Also, if passed how will the new health care reform affect this issue?

Heat and the Duragesic Pain Patch.... Use Caution

2009-06-01T11:22:00.000-07:00

This is the post I came on here to write about and then read about another class action suit against the manufacturer.... you can read that rant in the following post.

As of yesterday we had not turned on the air conditioner in the house, fans were doing the job even though the outside temp was up in the upper 80's.

Yesterday morning I woke up not feeling well and we had a graduation party to attend later in the day. About 2 p.m. I told hubby I needed to take a nap and to wake me about 4 so that I could shower and get ready to go.

When he woke me up I was sick and hotter than hell. I knew right off that I was overheated and my patch was causing me problems.

The symptoms I get when I get too much fentanyl through the patch are:

ringing in my ears
nauseated
can't stay awake
lightheaded
short of breath

I took my patch off and got into a cool shower and had hubby call poison control just to make sure I was not in any immediate danger.

My patch had already been on for 2 days, which is a good thing as there was not much medication to leech into my body and Ann Marie at poison control.... a very sweet lady, indicted that we were already doing the right thing by removing the patch and the cool shower to cool my body down. Since I was not wheezing or gasping for air she did not feel I needed to go to the ER but to stay in the shower for about 15 - 20 minutes and lay down with my head propped up to aid in breathing. She also said that we need to get the AC on.
She called back in an hour to see how I was doing and I was feeling much better. My breathing was easier, the ringing in my ears and lightheadedness had gone away. I was sipping a soda to calm my stomach and she assured me that I was not going to die from this but if the breathing problem continued to either go to the ER or see my MD this week.

This is just a cautionary tale and something to be mindful of. You also need to be careful if you are running a temperature because body heat can cause the medication to be released faster than usual.
Read your package insert and follow what it says.

Take care all.

Another Duragesic Patch Manufacturer Lawsuit

2009-06-01T10:19:00.000-07:00

I was actually going to write a precautionary note on the Duragesic Patch when I came across this attorney page and their "class action" lawsuit against the manufacturer.

These have cropped up from time to time and the reason for the lawsuits are always the same... "death due to use" when actually it needs to be "death due to miss-use."

I of course left a comment which I doubt will be approved and published on their site so below you will find the reasons outlined for the lawsuit and my response to them.

Attorney Website:

Duragesic Fentanyl Patch Overdose Lawsuit

May 29, 2009 - Attorney name omitted by my own decision

Filed under Duragesic Pain Patch

The Duragesic patch is a pain management product that actually is capable of delivering a powerful dose of medication to a patient. Unfortunately, even as many patients were using this product it became apparent that an ever increasing number of individuals were experience overdoses of the pain killer contained in the patch – fentanyl – for one of four different reasons. These individuals ended up facing oftentimes life threatening reactions to these overdoses. Moreover, an increasing number of individuals are being identified as having been killed as the result of overdosed associated with the Duragesic patch. Consequently, a growing number of individuals are making the decision to pursue a Duragesic patch overdose lawsuit.

As mentioned a moment ago, when it comes to a Duragesic Fentanyl patch overdose lawsuit, there are four general reasons in which an individual can end up overdosing and experiencing life threatening side effects associated with the product. Of course, as time goes on it very well may become apparent that there are even more groupings of individuals who may be positioned to embark on a Duragesic patch overdose lawsuit.

First, there is what has become a very apparent design defect associated with the Duragesic patch. It is this particular design defect which has led a considerable number of people to the courthouse to file a Duragesic patch overdose lawsuit. Specifically, it has been discovered that the seal on the Duragesic, the seal that is designed to control the flow of the powerful pain medication in the patch, can be found to leak causing an overdosing of a patient.

Second, there is another group of patients who have been forced to pursue a Duragesic patch overdose lawsuit because the instructions associated with the proper use of the patch were deemed unclear. As a consequence, these individuals ended up suffering injury (and in some cases death) as a result of overdoses that occurred as the result of unclear or even improper directions associated with the use of the patch.

Third, another group of individuals have had to pursue a Duragesic Fentanyl patch overdose lawsuit because they improperly were prescribed the patch in the first instance. This has occurred both through the negligence of health care providers combined with unclear patient parameters developed by the manufacturer of the patch.

Finally, health care providers themselves have also found themselves overdosed as the result of coming into contact with the Duragesic patch through the normal course of their work. Yet another apparent design defect associated with the Duragesic patch results in the gel pouch associated with the product itself to be easily damaged – damaged in a manner that might not be reasonably observed by a health care worker. In such a situation, the powerful medication flows from the ruptured patch into that health care worker’s system causing an overdose. This represents yet another group of individuals who have been injured as a result of their contact with the Duragesic patch, a group of individuals who also have found it necessary to pursue a Duragesic patch overdose lawsuit to protect their rights and interests.

My comments to the attorney group concerning the lawsuit and what I am going to send to the FDA and the manufacturer of the patch:

To date, I have been a chronic pain patient for 13 yrs due to a botched back surgery, hospital contracted MRSA that resulted in 8 subsequent back surgeries. I now have chronic osteomyelitis, arachnoiditis, spinal stenosis and a host of other back problems from the multi surgeries and infection.

9 years ago the Duragesic Patch saved my life and sanity. It actually gave me back my quality of life.

Prior to being put on the patch I was on oxycontin and was a drooling vegetable on the couch. I barely ate, I could not function, all I did was sleep and drool. Then I found out that I was going to be a Granny and I did not want my grandchild to have a granny in the state I was in.
On my next appt. with my pain management MD I pulled an almost full bottle of oxycontin out of my purse and told him that I would sit right there and take every pill in the bottle if he did not put me on something that would give me back my life. That is when I first tried the Duragesic Patch.

Within a week I was working in my garden and able to do some house cleaning. I stayed away all day, I was eating again and my back pain was less than on the oxycontin. Of course it took awhile to find the correct dosage but when we finally did I felt like a contributing member of society again not to mention being able to function as a wife and mother.
Duragesic like many other meds has gotten a bad rap because of doctors not prescribing it as directed, it is intended for chronic pain not acute pain, and yes I have known some people who were on it for acute pain.

It has gotten a bad rap because it has been abused by drug addicts. Nursing home workers actually take them off of patients in their care and either use them or sell them.
If you are under the supervision of a qualified MD and use the medication as directed including not allowing yourself to get too hot in the summer and take precautions if you are running a temp., this is the best medication on the market for chronic pain.

I still do and always will have limitations due to the problems with my back, I recognize those and work within them but pain is not one of them because of the patch.

If this medication is taken off of the market due to the abuses of others then the FDA will be doing a huge disservice to those of use who need the medication to function on a daily basis. They could monitor what it is being prescribed for by MDs and use other courses of action but not take it out of the hands of those of us who do not abuse it.

Look what the over prescribing of antibiotics has gotten us into, of which I am also a victim with the MRSA. But no one monitors this, antibiotics are not being taken off the market. We just continue to make products such as "anti-bacterial" hand washes, soaps, sprays, etc. That further exacerbate the problem.

I love my patch and what it has given back to me... my life.

An after thought... if anyone reads the package insert it informs the user of avoiding heat including running a temperature and how to properly dispose of the patch.

Health care workers... according to OSHA should be wearing gloves when they handle the patch.

It IS apparent when there is leakage of the gel insert as you get goo on your skin and the patch will no longer adhere to your body.

Also, anyone on the patch that is not seeing a health care provider (it takes awhile to get the proper dose) needs to assume a level of culpability in the matter.
The package insert is very clear on these counts and many others
End of comment...........

I feel very strongly about this medication primarily because of what it has done for me. I also feel that as a patient I have to read the boring package inserts on my medications especially when it comes to a medication of this strength.

WE as patients have to be our own advocates and take an interest in the medications being prescribed to us or to a family member. If we don't, then we bear a certain amount of responsibility when things go bad (read the post concerning what happened to me yesterday.)

As someone who was in the health care profession for many years, if a medical person is not wearing gloves when they handle the patch or anything that contains easily transferable medication or bodily fluids they are in violation of OSHA regulations. In the case of the patch... they have not read the package insert.
It just chaps my ass when a group of scum sucking attorneys jump all over something like this without taking into account the clientele's responsibility behind the effect. Especially when this medication has done more good for chronic pain patients than harm to a few that are not following the directions, are just ignorant or don't have a family advocate.

Thank you for all your input and suggestions

2008-05-11T22:00:00.000-07:00

Please be sure to read the comments left by others there is really some good advice.

So far I am doing great with my "diet' and exercise. I have not had any red meat and have really increased my fresh veggies and fruit. I am back to my Pilates and yoga and already feel much better. Last night at my daughter's graduation party I didn't even have a piece of cake. That is a miracle

Traditional medicine is not always the answer. At least back when I was in the medical field, MDs would get little bonuses from the drug companies for writing certain prescriptions, giving away samples, etc. This encouraged doctors to give patients medications when they may not necessarily need them.

As for the medication given to me for my cholesterol, I have not fully researched it, but I don't think that it has been on the market very long. When I do take medications I want tried and true meds, those that have been around for a few years, the ones that we know if they are going to cause horrible side effects or not.

It has come out that taking Paxil when you are pregnant can cause problems in the baby. This should not take the FDA or a rocket scientist to know.... you don't take drugs of any type while you are pregnant. If your depression is so bad that you need meds, then maybe now is not the time to get pregnant. Get your depression under control and then have a baby.

I am convinced that the increase of ADD and ADHD in children is caused by the mother's exposure to medication, chemicals in the home and environment and chemical laden foods including processed foods.

Please keep the comments coming. I read each and every one of them.

Doctor's And Their Medication

2008-05-04T10:09:00.000-07:00

The update on my visit to the MD concerning all of my lab work trying to figure out what is wrong with my immune system.....

First; they had done a lipid profile and my cholesterol was up some as well as the rest of the numbers. BAM... she hits me with "you need to take medication to lower your cholesterol." Wait a minute! Why can't I try altering my diet and doing just a little exercise? My husband was able to lower his cholesterol numbers by simply taking his lunch to work instead of eating out and he has stayed with his exercise routine.

With all of the stress of this past year my diet has been horrible and I gave my pilates ball to my best friend and have not blown up my new one. She was insistent that I go on the medication but, with me being me, I am going the diet and exercise route for the next month and see if it makes any difference in the lipid profile numbers. If it doesn't, then I will take the medication.

As for the immune system issue; the MD she referred me to for this is an "allergist and immunologist." Most of my blood levels were within normal limits and the few that were not were, in his words "close enough to normal to be considered normal." I don't know why that didn't apply to the lipid panel. His solution, sit down for this one.... take an allergy pill everyday.

I just about fell off of my chair. 5 years on IV antibiotics because of hospital acquired MRSA, I catch every bug, every cut becomes a major staph infection and an allergy pill everyday is going to make everything ok. I told him that essentially the doctor's created this MRSA problem so why aren't they working diligently on curing all of the complications that go along with having it such as long term IV antibiotic therapy and the immune system. Of course he had no response to that.

I am going to check around for some clinical trials and also seek homeopathic help with this. I am just so frustrated with the whole mess that I could spit bullets.

An update on the Vitamin D and chronic pain

2008-04-29T10:01:00.000-07:00

I just wanted to update you on my vitamin D issue. The high dose Rx vitamin D boosted my levels up a little and now I am on a maintenance dose of 1400 mg a day. I need to do some research because it seems like there is something else you need to take in order for your body to absorb vit. D. but so far I have just been taking the pills.

I don't recall if I mentioned in a previous post that they have found I have absolutely NO immune system - this is a result of 5 yrs. on IV antibiotics. I have been to an immunologist who drew 16 tubes of blood checking just about everything there is to check, and I go back to see him on May 1st to see what the outcome of the blood results are and what we can do to boost my immune system.

Needless to say, this is getting tiresome and I have become somewhat depressed over the entire ordeal. The anger towards the Dr. who did my initial surgery when I got the staph infection, but his ego got in the way of him treating it, has resurfaced. I went through a long healing and forgiveness process it took years but it finally happened, now it is back with a vengeance. I guess I will have to begin the forgiveness process again.

I will post again when I get my lab results on Thursday.

New Studies on Vitamin D and Chronic Pain

2008-02-08T22:21:00.000-08:00

Last month when I went for my monthly visit to my MD to get my Durgesic patch refilled, she told me about a seminar she attended. The seminar was conducted by a "Preventative Cardiologist" -vs- a Cardiologist that just treats the symptoms and disease.

She said that he talked about new and old studies showing the importance of vitamin D in the prevention and treatment of a wide variety of illnesses including chronic pain. A lack of vitamin D will actual make one hypersensitive to pain.

So we decided to draw some blood and check my vitamin D level, it came back at 0, I have no vitamin D in my body... I guess that is what the test results of 0 mean.

She has put me on 50000IU capsules of vitamin D (Rx only), I take 1 a week for 6 weeks. 2-3 days after my last pill I have to get my blood levels draw again and hopefully it will show a significant improvement. If it does then I will go on a maintenance dose of over the counter vitamin D.

I take a daily multi-vitamin and have for years as well as supplements of B complex but evidently the level of D is not enough to make a difference.

Please remember, I was on IV antibiotics for almost 5 years due to the MRSA I contracted during surgery about 11 years ago. I was told at the time that no one was really sure what consequences I would endure due to the long term IV antibiotic therapy and depletion of my vitamin D might be one of the effects.

After I caught pneumonia last year they gave me a pneumonia shot and when they drew blood for the above test they also checked my immune system titers..... out of 10 or 12 different values mine were all ZERO. I have absolutely no immune system either. They gave me another pneumonia shot and I have to get my levels redrawn in a couple of weeks. If there is still no improvement, I will get one more shot.

I had suspected that my immune system was shot to hell and have tried many conventional as well as alternative treatments to build it back up but I guess all of them failed. This is scary to me. I am just a walking sponge for any germ that wants to leap off onto me and make me sick.

This makes me wonder if my childhood immunizations are still functioning, the MMR, etc. so I am going to ask to have all of the titers for those diseases as well as all my vitamin levels done.

There is something going on in my poor worn out 48 year old body and I don't like it one little bit. I eat lots of veggies, fresh or frozen not canned, loads of fruit and all of the food that is supposed to be good for the body but it's not taking.

Just a suggestion, get your vitamin D levels drawn and see what yours is.

I don't really have any reference other than what my MD told me but I did find the below blurb about chronic pain and vitamin D and a few websites that can give you some info to take to your MD.

Chronic muscle pain can be a symptom of vitamin D deficiency. Vitamin
D is found in fish with small bones, fortified milk and cereal, and exposure
to sunlight.
Risk factors for vitamin D deficiency are:
darker
pigmented skin (e.g. Hispanic, African American, Asian) does not convert UV rays
efficiently to vitamin D
digestive disorders, such as celiac disease
use
of glucocorticoid medications for conditions such as lung diseases and
allergies
minimal sun exposure (elderly, institutionalized, homebound, veiled
or heavily-clothed individuals)
latitude and season - for example, people in
Boston do not produce vitamin D from sun exposure between November and
February
A study by the University of Minnesota looked at the prevalence of
vitamin D deficiency in 150 people with chronic musculoskeletal pain.
Researchers found that 93% of patients had vitamin D deficiency. All people with
darker pigmented skin (African American, East African, Hispanic, and Native
American origin) had vitamin D deficiency.
Another interesting finding was
that the majority of people with severe vitamin D deficiency were under 30 years
of age. Season was not a significant factor.
The researchers concluded that
all people with persistent, non-specific musculoskeletal pain should be screened
for vitamin D deficiency.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/533686/
http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/features/vitaminD.html (this article has other good info on vitamin D)

Please be sure and leave comments on your experience I am really interested in what you have to say.

Live Love and Learn

Stress and Back Pain or Chronic Pain

2007-08-19T13:08:00.000-07:00

It has been awhile since I have posted anything but STRESS has been running my life.

We have had several horrible tragedies and due to dysfunction in my husbands dumb ass family, most of the work and stress has fallen to me.... the least physically capable person of the bunch but I guess I am also the strongest emotionally.

One thing that will increase your pain is stress. My pain level these past few months has been almost unbearable. My pain management regimen has not been working at all. I am taking more oral pain medicine than I have in the past 11 years and it is all stress.

I am not good at managing stress and never have been, I tend to dwell on things unless I am able to have a face to face confrontation with the person causing my stress and just laying it all out on the table... I will dwell on whatever the issue is.

Of course in the past 3 months we have had 3 deaths and sent our oldest daughter to Iraq.... that in itself is very stressful but in the midst of this one of my sister-in-laws decided to get in my face concerning an issue with her sister's recent passing. I would have let it go at that point but she commenced to calling all the other siblings (5) and telling them her version of the story. Then each of them and one of their aunt's calls me and chews me out for daring to argue with their princess little sister..... who happens to be 30+ years old.

So I guess I have major issues with the family dynamic and how I am the villain after all of the work I have done while they sat around and "grieved." I have not had that privilege as of yet and then I endure 2 more deaths and my daughter going to Iraq.

I strayed from my topic...

Learning to manage your stress is paramount to living a healthy lifestyle especially when you are living with chronic pain.

Chronic Pain and a Loving Partner

2006-10-18T08:51:00.000-07:00

I have lived with chronic pain since 1996. Actually it started before that but it was managable, in '96 is when I started treatment with pain meds, had gobs of surgery and my life as I knew it changed completely. As did the life of my husband.

Many men would have walked away from this situation, my first husband would have... this I know for a fact. But my current husband and I just marked our 20th Wedding Anniversary in Sept.

It has not been easy but not once has he complained, atleast where I could hear him. If he comes home from work and I am asleep, he cooks dinner for the kids. I got tired of fussing about dirty floors and bathtubs (and it wasn't fair to fuss at him about it) so we just budgeted in $100 a month to hire someone to come in and clean the floors and bathrooms. She comes twice a month and does a fair job, but she is young and doesn't give a rat's patoot or have the work ethic that the first mature woman I hired had. The first lady I hired actually dusted, cleaned the kitchen and knocked down cobwebs as well as floors and bathrooms..... for $50.00 twice a month. Unfortunatly, she became ill and had to go to work for a corporation to get insurance.

Sex.... well. It may sound horrible but even when I'm not "in the mood" I go for it a couple times a week because it's the right thing to do. He doesn't push it, he doesn't complain and if he can tell that I really feel crappy he will turn me down. But I always put on a happy face and usually get into it (he's good) after a few minutes. There have been occassions where we may go a month but pleasure can be had in ways other than the traditional. We are creative.

He is very aware of the fact that during the winter months I am pretty much homebound due to the proliferation of germs out in public. Folks are pretty nasty and my immune system is shot due to 5 years of IV antibiotics. Closed in spaces such as movie theaters are horrible, concerts, etc. So we take weekend trips to small towns and hit the antique stores or just see the sites. We rent lots of movies to watch at home and have friends over for pizza and visit with family.

He has had to take over the grocery shopping for the same reason. People think nothing of sneezing in your face. We don't eat fast food or salad bars. I am very careful about what restaurants I eat at because one filthy cook can put me in bed for a week.

He doesn't complain.

I tell him often how much I love and appreciate him and all that he does for me. I DO NOT COMPLAIN TO HIM OR OTHERS ABOUT HOW SHITTY I FEEL. What good does it do and who wants to hear it? He knows me well enough to read it on my face, or by the way I walk.

My oldest daughter is amazing too but it is different. My youngest at the age of 18 is only into herself plus she has pretty much grown up with me being ill so she doesn't know what to do or when to do it. She will learn.

I hope that you all have someone as wonderful as I do.

Be happy, find happiness in a hobby, friends, pets, family anything. Don't let yourself be alone. I'm here for you if nothing else.

Chronic Pain Patients and Drug Addicts

2006-09-23T22:01:00.000-07:00

I have read several studies indicating that chronic pain patients do not become addicted to their medications. You can build up a tolerance to the medication and require a stronger dosage over a period of time but you do not exhibit the drug seeking behaviour that drug addicts show.

To me this is a very important piece of information to have.

I know a couple of people that use "chronic pain" as a way to have access to narcotic pain meds. They are constantly running to the ER after office hours to get a "pain shot" because their pain is unbearable. But when you ask them about their pain they are always vague and non-specific. "I hurt everywhere." As they suck on their opiate lollypop and drool runs down the chin.

One lady, we used to be fairly good friends, lost her job because she was getting wasted at work and actually sleeping at her desk. They fired her after they obtained several hours of video tape of her sleeping, once she had her face in her lunch. This is the action of a drug addict and not someone with chronic pain.

If your pain is so bad that you are having to go to the ER for shots of anything, then you need to find a new MD and get on a good pain control regimen.

Controlling pain is a 24/7 venture. You have to stay one step ahead of it or else it will kick your butt and getting back on top of it is a long hard road.

I think that is why I like my pain patch so much. As long as I remember to change it every 3 days, I'm okay. My MD just raised my dosage for the first time in 3 years and it has made a big difference, my break-through pain is much less. In the 11 years that I have had chronic pain I have never gone to the ER because of the pain in my back... ie. I have not had a shot of Demerol in the ER for my pain in all these years. This is because I had good doctor's from the very beginning who educated me on the mechanics of pain and what I had to do to stay ahead of it.

Talk to your doctor if you feel that you are in more pain than you need to be. Be specific about where your pain is. Be assertive and change doctors if you have to. If you feel that you have an addiction problem please get the proper help, don't put yourself and your loved ones through the hell of drug addiction. My friend, former friend, is miserable and is alienating everyone who used to be near and dear to her... all for the sake of a high.

MILK THISTLE THE MIRACLE HERB... OR IS IT A WEED

2006-07-19T18:20:00.000-07:00

In today's toxic society everyone needs to take Milk Thistle.

Milk Thistle heals the liver. The liver can regenerate itself and Milk Thistle helps it do just that. To read my personal introduction to Milk Thistle read the post before this one. Since I started taking it I have introduced a number of people to it with astounding results.

My Daddy had chemical induced hepatitis (he is a petroleum chemical engineer) and his liver has always given him problems. He has been on Milk Thistle as long as I have and has perfect liver enzymes even though he is on a cholestrol lowering med. that is hard on the liver.
The son of a life-time friend of ours was in the hospital in the final stages of cirossis of the liver from alcohol abuse (they gave him 2 weeks to live). My mom told his mom about the amazing Milk Thistle and she started smuggling it into the hospital and giving it to him, 4 a day. 3 weeks later he was released from the hospital, he is remarried, sober, healthy and very happy. The doctor's were amazed at his recovery and I don't think that Auntie T. ever told them what she had been giving him.
I know 3 people who were in liver failure but within a month of starting Milk Thistle their livers were healing and they were getting well.
I have several other stories but I think that you see what is happening here.... this little herb is what I call a miracle drug without the pharmacutical label and price tag.

European countries have studied Milk Thistle but the personal stories I know of are what amaze me. What baffles me is that Doctor's don't tell patient's about it. Milk Thistle can't hurt you and it doesn't interact with any medications that I know of, I have talked to several pharmacist's about it and they have looked it up.

Your liver is like the air conditioning filter for the body, it filters out all the gunk that we put into ourselves. If you drink, you need to take Milk Thistle, if you are on medication.... you need Milk Thistle. It will keep your liver functioning the way it needs to be effective and healthy.

I started off on 4 a day and tapered down from there as I started feeling better, I now take 1 a day. I purchase mine from www.puritanspride.com they often have buy 1 get 1 free sales.

DISCLAIMER: This information is not intended to take the place of an MD or DO. This is just my personal experience and that of many people I know. I also know that this information is not common knowledge and that in itself is a shame. Step outside the box, herbs have been around for centuries, talk to a knowledgable person or do your own research before taking anything. Big medicine is not always the answer. Take control of your health and your healthcare.

Gallbladder Pain After Gallbladder Removed - Milk Thistle Saved My Life

2006-05-19T06:20:00.001-07:00

About 15 years ago I began having horrible abdominal pain, it was excruciating. The good ole docs decided that it was my gallbladder, even though the tests showed no inflammation or gall stones.

What the hell, I went ahead and let them take that puppy out, I was sick.

3 days later the pain was back but this time it was much worse but when I went back to the doctor he thought I had gone crazy. It wasn't a constant pain, it occured atleast once a week and was a pain like I had never felt. It was on my right side almost under my ribcage and it seemed to travel to my back. It also felt like it went up my chest and down my arm. It would take by breathe and there was nothing I could do to ease it. The day after a pain episode I would be very lethargic and sick to my stomach, the lethargy would go into the next day as well.

I eventually went to a Gastrointerologist, he was baffled by this but he asked me to go to the emergency room the next time I had this pain and get my liver enzyme functions drawn, this is just blood work. Amazingly, my liver function tests were incredibly high. We checked them the next 4 times I had an "episode" and the liver enzymes continued to climb. They would come back to normal in between the pain episodes. My liver biopsy showed some inflammation but was otherwise normal.

The GI doc sent to to the "best GI Doctor in the world" in Racine, WI. (I live in Kansas). This fellow ran more tests and did a sphincterotomy (sp?) and sent me home, still with no diagnosis. Of course by this time I am on 6 different medications for something that no one can put a name on and I am getting sicker by the minute.

8 months into this, I had 4 liver biopsies, my liver enzymes were being drawn twice a week and I think I am dying, the bad thing is no one is telling me I'm not going to die. I'm in my mid-30's.

I just happen to run into a schoolmate of my oldest daughter's who has hepatitis C and is undergoing treatment for it. She tells me about some herbs and vitamins she is taking.... I do some research on them and one that keeps coming up for liver problems is Milk Thistle.

I started taking Milk Thistle, 4 a day, and my liver function test a week later was NORMAL. 2 weeks go by and I had not had a pain episode, my liver enzymes are still normal so I quit taking all of the prescription medications. A month goes my and I have been eating, liver enzymes are still normal and still no pain episodes.

Of course my doctor's are stumped and they really don't want to admit that the Milk Thistle had anything to do with it.... yeah right.

It turns out that I had/have Biliary Dyskenisia or Sphincter or Oddi Disfunction. Basically, the biliary system goes into spasms and backs everything up into the liver, this is what causes the liver enzymes to go out of whack. If this goes on long enough it can do some bad damage. The upside is, the liver can repair itself and Milk Thistle does that. I now take 1 Milk Thistle a day. I get mine from www.puritanspride.com

How I have learned to live with Biliary Dyskenesia or a messed up Oddi:

Never let yourself get hungry, I don't know what this has to do with anything but if I let myself get really hungry I can feel the pain coming on.
You can knock down the severe pain with buttered bread.
A super low fat diet will make the pain worse, I tried Dr. Phil's diet book and the pain came back really bad
Eat a little something before you go to bed, my pain usually hit me about 2 a.m., so now I eat a piece of buttered toast or something else small before I go to bed... just as a precaution.

FYI - I read that laproscopic removal of the gallbladder can actually bring on biliary dyskenesia. This was in a "small percentage" of the cases but it does happen. In my case, BD was the original problem and not my gallbladder but if you are still having gallbladder pain after your gallbladder is removed..... here ya go. Don't panic just try some of the things outlined here and see if they work for you. The laproscope still beats the old open surgical removal of the gallbladder.

I would be more than happy to respond to your questions about this here on this blog.

DISCLAIMER: I am just a lay person who has lived through this and want to share what I learned. This advice is not intended to take the place of honest to goodness medical advice from a licensed MD or DO. But please never be afraid to step outside the bounds of conventional medicine, ask questions and do your own research.

I LOVE my Durgesic Pain Patch

2006-05-19T06:20:00.000-07:00

I have been on Durgesic for a little over 5 years and can't imagine my life without it.

The active ingredient is Fentanyl. This is one of the medications that is used to put you to sleep for surgery. It is a very strong medication and as far as I'm concerned it is extremely effective for controlling chronic pain, especially back pain.

Before I was on the patch I was taking Oxycontin and I was a drooling vegetable with no quality of life. I had been on this mess for 4 years and did nothing but sleep and go to the bathroom. I ate only if there was someone here to remind me to eat. It was pathetic, I was pathetic.

When we found out that my oldest daughter was going to have a baby I told the doctor that I needed something that would allow me to be an active participant in her life or I was going to kill myself, I did not want to "live" in the state I was in. This is when I was introduced to the pain patch.

Within a week I was out working in my garden, I was cooking meals, I was an active participant once again in my family.... it still brings tears to my eyes to remember back to those days.

Here I am 5 years later doing everything that I want to do which is basically anything that my "new body and life" will let me do. I know my limitations and as long as I stay within those, I'm good. If I do more than my back and body want me to, then I have Lorcet for the breakthrough pain but I take no more than 2 a day. Usually this is 1 at bedtime and 1 about 3 a.m.

I am truly amazed at how many people are still taking the conventional narcotic pain meds when this wonder drug is out there. No, you don't get the head rush or buzz that you get from oxycontin or dilaudid. But honestly, if you are going for the head rush, you are addicted and need to question the level of pain you really have. I have talked to several people with supposed chronic pain who refuse to even try the Durgesic Patch simply because there is no buzz from it. Personally, I want the quality of life with a little less pain that is easier on my liver that I get from the patch.

The Durgesic Patch has been given a bad rap due to misuse, it is not for acute pain it is for chronic pain, and abuse. If you abuse any drug yes.... it can kill you. There has been talk of removing this wonderful medication from use by the public due to this misuse ie. the doctor's are once again prescribing a medication where it isn't indicated and the abuse by folks that will abuse cough medicine if they have enough of it.

I urge you to talk to your doctor about the Durgesic Patch. Over the past 10+ years I have been on just about every pain medication on the market and this is the only one that truly works without horrible side effects.

Pain in the Neck Doctors

2006-04-24T11:24:00.000-07:00

One of my truisms is trust your doctor and believe in the treatment you are getting. As a chronic pain patient this includes calling in refills in a timely manner... not 5 days later.

I have been fortunate to be with the same group of doctor's for 15 years, this pain management doc. only a few months. I fired my previous pain management doctor because of some questionable office practices and billing procedures and asked my PCP to take over the filling of my pain meds, she agreed but then this guy joined the group and she asked me to see him... which I did.

Here we are 6 months later and the level of trust is not there so I am once again going to see if my PCP will fill the scripts and if not I will change groups all together.

A month ago I made my month med refill appointment... which is tomorrow, but they don't have it on the books. So when I called on Thursday for a refill they did not refill my script because I had not made a follow-up appt. Why didn't they call me and ask?!?! Instead they let me go most of the weekend without pain meds.

This is not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last so it is time to make a change, I do have options. This is not quality health care, not that we really get that anymore here in the U.S..... unless you demand it from your provider, which I do.

Just don't forget that we do have rights. Write your insurance company and the providing doctor with your displeasure. We may be in pain but we aren't idiots.

What I have learned in living with back pain

2006-03-30T12:58:00.000-08:00

I have learned that you MUST educate yourself on your condition and be your own advocate. I am fortunate that I have an amazing group of Doctor's... other than my current pain management doctor but he is on his way out. If you don't know what is best for you then who does? There will be times when you have to fight tooth and nail with the insurance company and your physicians so you have to know what you are talking about.

This pea brain pain management guy I am seeing right now has messed me up big time but it assume some of the responsibility for it. He decided that I needed physical therapy to "strengthen my core" now knowing that I have 2 bulging discs and the horrors I experienced with PT in the past I know that this was not the best idea. But I went ahead and played along. 2 days after my first appt. I could not get out of bed... this was on March 7th. I am still in a great deal of pain, more pain than I have been in in quite sometime.

I had an MRI on Monday, I have now herniated both disc, have an annular tear and there is inflammation in the disc (I'm not sure what this means). Of course he can't get me in to be seen until the end of next month so I have contacted the administrator of the corporation for this doctor's group and complained about him not allowing appointment slots for follow-up visits but I will be going to my orthopaedic surgeon. Not that I will have surgery but because I need to have some pain relief and quick. My patch and the Lorcet aren't cutting it.

PT works great in most cases but has not proven to be the best thing for me.

My Back Pain - How it came to be

2006-03-30T11:49:00.000-08:00

I have always had some level of back pain due to a common birth defect, a spondylolethesis. Most folks have spondys and have no symptoms, my pain started with my second pregnancy. But since I had to work, well, I continued to work through the pain.

After the birth of my daughter the pain eased up some and I managed it with exercise and physical therapy as needed. But, in Oct. 1995 all hell broke loose. I was an x-ray tech working for an orthopaedic surgeon, ironic isn't it. I was lifting a patient with the help of his nephew and the nephew let go, I bent double and wham, I was racked with the worst pain I had ever felt. I went ahead and x-rayed the patient, threw him back in his wheelchair and crawled into one of the exam rooms to rest. I talked the secretary through x-raying my back but of course we needed an MRI. I managed to work a couple of more days but have not worked since.

I ended up going in for the first of many surgeries in late October. I had rods and screws inserted in my lumbar spine to stabalize it and as fusion was done. The fusion did not take so 3 months later a second fusion was attempted.... I got infected with staph during surgery.

The surgeon aka asshole (not my former boss) did not think that the green stuff oozing from my wound was cause for concern, nor the intractable pain, nor the temp of 102. So I wandered this earth with a raging infection for 6 weeks. Finally, one morning I was so ill and in such pain I could not breath so I went to my former boss, raised my pajama top and showed him the incision, he closed his office and took me to the hospital. At that point he became my treating physician. I was toxic, the staph was in my blood and I was about a week away from death. I was placed on IV antibiotics which I ended up being on for almost 5 years.

The next 6 years were filled with surgeries to debride infectious material, remove hardware, try to stabalize my spine, redo fusions, all to no avail because the infection was still so rampant and strong. In total I had 8 back surgeries. We could not knock down the infection because whenever I would get to a therapeutic dose of Vancomycin I would have an allergic reaction, they tried desensitization but that didn't work either. I eventually lost 40% of the hearing in one ear to otic toxicity from the Vanco. Finally a new antibiotic Synercid was put on the market and that very day I was put on it, within 6 weeks the infection was tamped down.

I now have chronic osteomyelitis and have reoccurances of the infection from time to time but we know what works and I know what to look for. I get infected by anything and catch every germ there is so I have to avoid crowds, salad bars and be vigilant about washing my hands and what I touch. I cannot have more back surgery because of my infection risk.

I am 45 years young. On the pain scale I am at a 5 everyday. I am on the Durgesic patch (I love it) and Lorcet as well as a couple of pills for nerve pain in my legs that I take at night. I garden, sell antiques... which means I have to shop for them too, I cook for my husband, have sex, I do not do floors or bathrooms I pay someone $50 twice a month to do this for me but I do the rest of the housecleaning. My husband goes to the grocery store and does the laundry (he did that from the git go.) My life is good, yes, it has changed drastically but it is good.